The magazine of the Melbourne PC User Group

A New Home in Chadstone
Dave Botherway & Ash Nallawalla
 

Dave Botherway and Ash Nallawalla have teamed up to write about this exciting news

Four years of searching for new premises to overcome the Dorcas Street shortfalls is being rewarded with a move into new facilities above the Chadstone Shopping Centre, and it's scheduled for practical completion at the end of October. This is our fifth home in 20 years. Each move was followed by a growth in membership and activities at the new location.
 
1. Cecil Street

Our first home in late 1988 was at 12 Cecil St, but it had room only for the part-time office administrator. Our membership then was 2400. We hired rooms for training and SIG meetings as needed. At the time, our President, the late John Beck wrote:

"Many people have gone into print to expound that a large membership is the key to success. This is not so in many respects. Due to a very rapid increase in our membership over the past 18 months, we have been obliged to have a paid Administration Officer, and rent office space. The larger our membership, the more the workload of the administration increases.

"The location envisaged would be close to the City for convenience, and as most of our members live on the East side, it would be on that side preferably. It would be on or very close to a main road, so that it was easily found by strangers to the area. The building could be a shop, house, church or school no longer required, or even a vacant lot to build on. Naturally there must be room for parking, and it must not cost a small fortune."

2. St Kilda Road

We moved to 568 St Kilda Road in February 1991, when our membership was 6000. At the time, our President, Spen Ingamells wrote:

"Our Group is almost ready to acquire its own premises. The committee is currently investigating a number of possibilities that would see the group owning its own premises before the end of this financial year.

"Imagine being a member of the biggest, most interesting and exciting User Group in the world. Wouldn't it be great to drop in for a chat, meet some friends in the lounge, buy virtually anything you could want from the members-only retail shop in the corner and then have coffee and relax before your Training Course began.

"We could have a real life alternative to the present Dial Help Service. This is not suggesting we do away with Dial Help but with our own building, we could be set up so that some of our more experienced members were on hand at various times to show us on one of the Group's PCs how something is done rather than trying to explain over the phone.

"How will we do it, you ask. Well, just a couple of weeks ago, a building that would have been ideal for our use was sold for $550,000. The same property was sold eighteen months previously for $930,000. That's the recession at work, so why not let it work in our favour. Do I hear somebody out there asking where can the Group find $500,000 - CASH? The answer, of course, is from the membership! Obviously there would be very few members who would be in a position to spend $500,000, however by the time the December Annual General Meeting rolls round, that amount could, for example, be represented by a debenture of say $85 per member".

3. Albert Road

In 1992, our home was 66 Albert Road - 288 square metres - when membership reached 7000. At last we had three office rooms, a BBS room, and a SIG room that held about 35 people. These premises saw a period of innovation and growth, such as our Internet Service.

4. Dorcas Street

We moved to 27 Dorcas Street in October 1997, when our membership reached almost 10,000. Then-President Stan Johnstone wrote:

"We have gained a street front exposure to the public that we previously lacked. Already this exposure has attracted new members, and it has provided an attractive centre which has encouraged many members to just drop in and see what we are all about.

"Facilities have been improved, and already there are plans for additional equipment and increased accessibility to features. The problem of office security which was a major concern in Albert Road has now been overcome. It has become a more attractive office to work in, and we hope it will be a more attractive place for you to visit to attend SIGs, training courses, and the like."

Dorcas Street gave our Internet Service and BBS their own air-conditioned rooms, but the true winners were the city SIGs and the Training group. SIGs at other locations were also infected with the enthusiasm and new ones continue to be started. However, in April 2004, current President Dave Botherway reported:

"As the existing rental arrangements for Dorcas Street are due to expire in July this year, we are reviewing some of their shortcomings:

  • Cramped conditions, now too small for the number and size of City SIGs.

  • Poor car parking facilities, getting worse due to nearby residential expansion.

  • Poor disabled people access, No wheelchair access.

  • Incorrectly located relative to the "Geographical Centre of our Membership", which based on the post codes of our 11,000 members, is slightly south-east of Camberwell Junction.
"We have conducted surveys amongst the membership, where 1,500+ respondents showed an overwhelming preference for the office facilities to be located in the south-east sector. The results also indicate that provided appropriate access and parking were available, SIG and training course attendance could double. This aspect is validated by our current experience where monthly meetings held out-east have double the attendance of our Parkville/City meetings. It is recognised however that some members currently attending Dorcas Street SIGs would prefer the status quo. Ways of meeting some of those City location needs must also be considered.

"Our capacity problems are not limited to the City, as our three largest groups (Video Editing at Balwyn, East at Blackburn and Retirees at Syndal) all have space and/or parking issues. The Buildings Subcommittee has looked at more than 70 sites and studied their options to address all these existing shortcomings."
 

5. Now, the Chadstone Centre"
With adequate (and free) parking being a key factor for a new site, the use of a Shopping Centre - where our parking needs are at opposite times to most shoppers - offered a good solution. An office area within the Chadstone Shopping Centre (Melway Map 69,E4) became available, and planning commenced for the second level of the Chadstone Place building.
 



Figure 1. Geographical Location. (Special thanks to Melway Publishing for the background map).

Building Entrance

The entrance is on the Southern side of the Centre between the National Bank and My Chemist (undergoing reconstruction work) or through an internal corridor opposite Bi-Lo, with lift and stair access to the second floor. These premises address the key Dorcas St shortcomings and give us spare capacity for the future. We can offer meeting space at "friendly" rates to other computing groups and explore sponsorship opportunities for vendors. Disabled members and visitors can use a lift to use our facilities, which include a disabled toilet.



Figure 2. Photo taken from the South East with the above-ground, southern parking area still empty in the early
morning. The highlighted band of windows shows the 2nd floor, which Melb PC is occupying.

Facilities

As shown in Figure 3 below there are two large meeting rooms on the South side, holding 90 and 70 people respectively, which can be combined to seat 180. The sound system in the larger room will also provide Hearing Aid support. The third meeting room will seat 24, along with a Committee Room for 12. The Training room will accommodate normal seating for 18 as well as 12 computer workstations, totalling 30 people if needed. Meeting rooms and the training room will have overhead data projectors to minimise set-up time.

To address the need for hands-on network training and for the Communications and Windows-2000 groups, a further room has been set aside and cabled for that purpose. We also expect to use it for network gaming, as an attraction for younger members. A purpose-built Library will make our books and magazines more accessible, as part of a drop-in /coffee facility.
 
A few existing rooms initially surplus to our needs, will be made available as serviced offices to members once we have settled in, and there is room for three more serviced offices if appropriate. This still leaves us with plenty of open space for displays or to mingle with fellow members during breaks in meetings.



Figure 3. Proposed Floor plan for Chadstone Place. It remains essentially unchanged.

Vehicle Access

Car access is available, firstly via Middle Road from the Warrigal Road entrance, where you turn left at the first roundabout inside the Shopping Centre precinct. If you arrive travelling east along Dandenong Road there is a handy entrance at the second set of traffic lights past Chadstone Road. This takes you straight into the parking area in front of Chadstone place. There is plenty of free parking, with disabled spaces directly in front, and then one- and two-hour zones. On the perimeter and in the large underground parking area there is 4-hour parking - plus there is unlimited parking available on the middle and top levels of the Coles multi-storey car park on the Eastern side, just north of the roundabout.

Public Transport

With Chadstone being a Bus hub, there are numerous daytime routes as listed on the Location Map (page 6) and described in detail with timetables etc at http://www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/meltrip.htm.

At night, Route 700 along Warrigal Rd connects to Holmesglen / Box Hill stations until 10.30 pm, and to Oakleigh Station until 11.30 pm.

Overall, the new facility solves the four key shortcomings of Dorcas Street, but will be more difficult for members in the Western / Northern suburbs. To offset this situation, a subgroup has recently been formed in Wyndham, we have put additional equipment into our Essendon facility and are now looking at ways to bolster offerings in the Northern areas.

Hopefully, home Number 6 will be many years away.

Reprinted from the November 2004 issue of PC Update, the magazine of Melbourne PC User Group, Australia

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